Flanigan's Eco-Logic

In this episode of Flanigan’s Eco-Logic, Ted speaks with Andrew Jones, Executive Director and Co-Founder of Climate Interactive, and a Research Affiliate at MIT Sloan. Climate Interactive is rooted in the fields of system dynamics modelling and systems thinking. His team creates and share tools that help people see connections and drive effective and equitable climate action.

He and Ted discuss how climate modelling is an important step towards mitigating carbon emissions and making the right policy and personal choices to drive down emissions

Andrew was born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio, and trained in environmental engineering and system dynamics modelling through a B.A. at Dartmouth College and a M.S. in Technology and Policy at MIT. At Dartmouth College, he became a student of Dana Meadows, who introduced him to the world of both systems thinking and global models as ways for citizens and top decision makers to test their thinking about what it is really going to take to create a sustainable world.

He then worked with Ted at Rocky Mountain Institute in the 1990s and in the 2000s with Dana Meadows at Sustainability Institute. At Climate Interactive and MIT Sloan, he and his team developed C-ROADS and En-ROADS, two user-friendly climate simulations in use by analysts around the world. 

His interviews have appeared in multiple media, including The New York Times, U.S. News & World Report, and NPR’s Morning Edition. Andrew has also written two op-eds in the Sunday New York Times — one on building grounded hope and another in the form of an interactive simulation.

He co-accepted the ASysT Applied Systems Thinking Prize for “a significant accomplishment achieved through the application of systems thinking to a problem of U.S. national significance” and the System Dynamics Society’s Applications Award for the best real-world application of modelling. He is the 1990 recipient of Dartmouth College’s Ray W. Smith Award for the most significant contribution to the status of the College.

Andrew is based in Asheville, North Carolina, and teaches system dynamics at MIT Sloan and the Kenan-Flagler Business School at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.